How Many People Were on the Ark?

Short answer: 8 people

Bible reference: Genesis 7:13

“In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark.”

The Bible calls Noah “a preacher of righteousness” [2 Peter 2:5]. Noah tried to warn others about God’s coming judgment for sin, but no one listened. The door of the Ark was open to anyone who wanted to be saved, until the day the rain came and God shut the door of the Ark. They ignored Noah’s warnings until it was too late. Everyone on the Ark was saved. Everyone outside the Ark died.

Only Noah, his wife, his three sons and their wives were safe on the Ark. Except these 8 people [1 Peter 3:20], every other person died.

Just like then, preachers are warning people of God’s judgment for sin, the bad things we do when we know not to and the good things we fail to do when we know we should. And just as there was a Door on the Ark people could enter and be saved, there is a Door of Salvation today. That Door is Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only name under heaven and earth by which men must be saved. There was only one Door to the Ark; there is only one way to be saved from the judgment of our sin.

Ask Jesus to save you from your sins today, while the Door is still open.

112 Responses to How Many People Were on the Ark?

  1. Jimmy Azon says:

    “Only Noah, his wife, his three sons and their wives were safe on the Ark.”
    It’s funny how this story and creationism are all about incest and inbreeding.

    • Actually, the Biblical prohibition against marrying a close relative [which we now term incest] was not given until the time of Moses. By this time, genetic mutations had increased to the point where this was inadvisable due to possible birth defects, etc.

      Your comments were meant to be insulting and mocking, but they only serve to demonstrate how little you understand the Bible you so strongly object to. In the future, I suggest you seek to understand first and disagree after.

      • kksign74 says:

        Amen!! Rev. Tony, thank you for clearing that up. I was going to say much the same thing. Earliest man was one of the most perfect forms of man that God had created. Over time and through sin, the imperfections became more prominant and marrying close relations was prohibited. Again, thanks!! God bless!!

      • j par says:

        no whats funny is that nobody alive today was alive back then. yet they are fighting points like they seen it all. and nobody is going to give one way or the other.and they claim to be christians.cutting each other down were is your love brothers and sisters.as for you non- belivers i guess is that something really bad has not happened to you yet. but when it does, i pray it dont but when it does you will beg the God you dont belive in to help you God help us all.

      • Tony Breeden says:

        j par,

        Your comments are abusive and childish. Stop insulting everyone.

        I would ask you to calm down and would point out that the Bible claims to be a historical record of what happened back then. I would also point out that you are engaging in this fight, cutting people down and being a hypocrite. I don’t want to ban you, but you need to be a bit more respectful.

        Regards,
        Tony

      • Liz Williams says:

        excellent reply. <3

    • Jimmy Azon,

      Your comments reveal a misunderstanding of Christian theology and creationism. Creationists affirm that since Adam and Eve were created in a “very good” or perfect genetic state, but then began dying at the fall, that genetic copy errors would have been minimal until after the Noachian bottleneck event. Note that the Bible declares long lifespans for most pre-Flood patriarchs, whereas lifespans afterwards were significantly reduced. The dispersion of people groups at Babel increased the number of copy errors due to a more selective intermingling of the gene pool. By the time of Moses, copy errors had become numerous enough that God finally forbade the intermarriage of close relatives. In other words, inbreeding [which assumes genetic problems] was not really possible until the Levitical law was passed.

      As for the charge of incest, this is ludicrous. Shem, Ham and Japheth each had their own wives.

      What you’re trying to avoid here is that the account of Noah is all about righteous judgment against man’s sin by the Creator God they rejected… and an exclusive method of salvation that was free to all but likewise rejected. By parallel, Jesus Christ the Creator is the only means of salvation, graciously offered to all for their sin, but He is likewise rejected today by sinful men such as you.

      -Tony, DefGen.org

      • Hannah says:

        I really feel i must point out that Shem, Ham and Japheth may have each had their own wives but when they have kids, their kids will be having kids with their 1st cousins….inbreeding….incest

        will you explain that to me?

      • Tony Breeden says:

        Hannah,

        The Biblical prohibition against marrying a close relative [which we now term incest] was not given until the time of Moses. By this time, genetic mutations had increased to the point where this was inadvisable due to possible birth defects, etc., at which point God forbid marrying a close relative.

        -Tony

    • RH says:

      Ultimately, many who reject God and His revealed Word do so because of pride. They are so invested in their personal beliefs that they refuse to honestly weigh the evidence. To accept the Bible as true would require them to think seriously about God and their responsibility to Him. To accept the Bible as true might require a change of lifestyle. As Erwin Lutzer stated, “The truth is, few people have an open mind, especially about matters of religion. . . . Thus, perverted doctrines and prejudices are easily perpetuated from one generation to another.”

      • rob h says:

        Evidence is fact, not belief. You attribute pride as the reason that those who use their minds and see the world around them, disagree with you. This tact ignores the obvious; that the creationists foundation is based on making excuses for their every flaw in their logic.

        I have only seen this type of “logic” employed in one other non-Christian setting. It was at a Star-Trek convention in Las Vegas where two fans explained why the matter-anti-matter reactors worked in this clearly fictional scenario. It would seem that the laws of physics don’t apply once the impulse engines reach the speed of light.

        It’s a pity that people fear the stigma that surrounds seeking professional psychiatric assistance.

      • Tony Breeden says:

        Facts are not self-interpretive. Facts are interpreted according to our pre-existing beliefs.

        As for flaws in logic, I rejected the all-natural just-so story you find so “logical” precisely because it is logically inconsistent. Those eho affirm pure naturalism must also inconsistently affirm that nature can do supernatural things: that everything can come from nothing [or from unprovable, unobservable comic book multiverses when our observable sample size of universes is exactly ONE], that life can come from non-life [when that's never been observed either] and that a frog can really become a prince if we just give it enough time [which temporal limitation prevents us from observing said phenomenon]. Creationists affirm that a supernatural God created the world in 6 days, that the world fell by Adam’s sin and was judged by a world-wide flood later. God afterward promised the uniformity of nature in Genesis 8:22, so creationists expect that since the Flood the world has operated by uniform processes. So…

        Creationist worldview: Logically consistent
        Evolutionary worldview: Not so much.

        Good luck at the cons.

      • Puff Daddy says:

        RH, you are so very correct. I was one of those people. My pride blinded me in everything I said, touched, or laid eyes upon. I am an educated man who rose through the ranks of corporate America, made more money than most and lived a life on the coast, of which, my friends could only dream. In short, I had it all; everything I had ever wanted was in my possession. The only thing I didn’t have, was a relationship with and belief in Jesus Christ.
        You can bet your boots, WHEN THERE IS PRIDE (AND GLORY NOT GIVEN TO GOD) THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A FALL.
        And boy, did I fall. I lost everything due to pride and my sinful nature. I lost my career, my reputation, my family and many friends. All because “I knew better than to believe that hokey story.”
        “Pride is what made the devil the devil. Pride leads to every other vice, it is the complete anti-God state of mind.” (from the book “Mere Christianity” by C.S. Lewis)
        I would’ve been one of those that told Noah he was a kook and idiot. I would’ve watched the Ark door shut with a smug smile and turned to the bartender to ask for another drink.
        Because of pride, I am starting over… square one. I have nothing material, but I have everything spiritual. For what are earthly riches without peace? (hint: nothing. hellooo???)
        I am telling all of you who are “above” believing in Jesus Christ, those of you who are too smart, too cool, too in love with yourself… your time will come. I pray that you find our loving, compassionate, forgiving Lord before that time. Truly, miracles will and do happen through Him.
        God bless you all. :)

    • David says:

      Even with the big bang theory there had to be incest. Think about it!

  2. dennis says:

    as usual, religion is always indignant against anyone with a valid question about the early times of humanity and the old standby YOU must believe even though they cannot prove thier beliefs in realty. I’m still waiting for Gods’ 800 #, newsletter, or app and have not seen it yet. Just be glad we are not muslims or we could just kill for not believing (another sham money making gimmick) in the almighty allah (yeah you guys prove it also). All the religons founded after the catholic sham wanted in on the money being generated from the so called blind faith followers. As far as being an uniformed person about religon I was raised in the catholic faith and could tell you some good stories about how that worked out.

    • Tony Breeden says:

      While I understand your position on religious hypocrisy, the Bible does not teach blind faith.

      Out of curiosity though, and in the interests to holding the prevailing modern mythology to a consistent standard, how much faith does it take to believe that everything came from nothing [or unobservable comic book multiverses], the life came from nonlife and that a frog can become a prince after all if we just give it millions of years?

      • stooshie says:

        Your misunderstanding of physics, biology and even basic science is impressive.

        Perhaps a little humility and study about subjects such as evolution, abiogenesis and the big bang would stand you in good stead.

      • Tony Breeden says:

        College educated. Studied all of that but without the credulity most fresh-out-of-high-school students come in with.

        I ultimately rejected the all-natural just-so story I was being assured was true because naturalism is self-defeating. After all, naturalism must believe that nature can do supernatural things: that everything can come from nothing [or undetectable comic book multiverses when our observable sample size of universes is exactly ONE], that life can come from non-life, and that a frog can really become a prince… if we just give it enough time and chance.

        At least my worldview’s consistent with the one we observe

      • Jaime Pereira says:

        The same faith that it takes to believe that everything was made by an invisible being, who has existed forever. Forever, my friend! “Where did he came from?” “Oh, he has been alive forever… End if discussion!” Please, if that isn’t the lamest and laziest excuse of them all!

      • Tony Breeden says:

        If He created time and space, He exists outside their restraints. My point is that pure naturalism, upon which the evolutionary all-natural Just-so story is based, is self-contradictory. Those who affirm pure naturalism must also contradict itself by affirming that nature can do supernatural things. Both our worldviews utilize faith and evidence, but only one of our worldviews is logically consistent. If the idea that God is eternal and had no beginning is the “lamest and laziest excuse of them all” then the Big Bang multiverse idea that everything came from an eternal singularity that has always existed as part of any unobservable multiverse is what? Oops, Jaime just got caught having a double standard for his own worldview. uh oh.

  3. Shane says:

    The ark story is impossible for innumerable reasons.
    Here are five good ones.

    1: The current Genetic diversity among humans and animals is impossible to generate in a 6 thousand year span from only 2 breeding models of a species (or 8 in the case of humans).
    2: The spacial problems that would have been exhibited on the ark are immense. 35,000 different species of spiders alone exist today. Without evolution, how do you even fit 70,000 spiders on such a vessel… Much less the rest of the creatures. (The average spider weighs in at about 1 gram… With some being much less, and some being much more. That is an average of about 70,000 grams… Or 70 kilograms… About the weight of the average human… If you boiled them all into a pile… The average spider is less than an inch long… And would need quite a bit of food to survive for 40 days…)
    3: A worldwide deluge is not evident in modern geology. Such an event would have desalinized and deoxegenated the seas and oceans and destroyed almost all species of fish and waterborne animals.
    4: Where did the amount of water required to cover the landmass of earth a: come from… and b: go to? If it was stored in atmospheric clouds before the flood… Where did it go? If it was generated miraculously, then why bother? Wouldn’t just miraculously striking everyone else down be a far more intelligent method of performing such a task?
    5: The timeframe offerred in Genesis is impossible. For Noah to have loaded so many species of animals onto the ark (lets just estimate at around 15,000 major species. Google it…) he would have had to have moved an animal on board every 20 seconds for 7days, non-stop. (If two by two, then thats two animals every 40 seconds.) Modern biodiversity studies show that there are at least 3 million unique land-going species of animals, excluding bacteria and waterbourne animals. That’s a conservative estimate. The best figure we have is closet to 6.2 million. On one ark. In 7 days. Ok…

    Aside from these problems…How do you morally justify murdering the entire population of the earth? Suposedly, god gave Noah the message… But there is no way Noah could have delivered the message to everyone… Nor would there have been space. Plus… It seems like such a waste to bother with that. For an omnipotent god… Why a flood? Why an Ark? Would it not have saved veryone alot of time ans explaination if he just said “I will strike every human but Noah’s family with a moderately sized stone travelling at a decent speed. Pooof. You end up with a bunch of rocks, and millions dead anyway.

    But a flood? Maybe it was used… You know… Because almost every creation story of the time included a global deluge somewhere in it, and it was just a popular thing for a religion to say…

    • Tony Breeden says:

      So it has never occured to you that the reason a Flood was a popular detail for nearly all people groups across the globe to include was because it actually happened?

      I refer you to this site for answers to your first 5 questions. These objections have been answered ad nauseam. http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers#/topic/flood-geology-fossils

      As for why the Flood was justified, I submit the following: http://beyondflannelgraph.wordpress.com/before-the-flood/why-did-the-flood-happen/

    • tabatha272 says:

      Seriously … why bother …. they have answers for it all … we are not supposed to think because if we do we are either “Abusive” or “stupid” or “too proud” – we are all wrong and they will always be right … its all good … it’s all flawed, they just don’t pay attention to those parts! (you know … Eve and Adam … had 3 sons … hmmmm where did everyone else come from then? oh yeah, they found other people … that were not created by God … because they created that ring of rocks … flaws flaws flaws

      • Tony Breeden says:

        tabatha,

        Genesis 5:4 says that “After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.” That’s where everyone else came from.

        -Tony

    • Scott says:

      Great reply Shane. I see Tony’s response below and went to web site only to find he(they) believed dinars ours were in the Ark too.. But reading on they claim only two dianisours were in the ark and “perhaps” ( they seem to like using that word a lot) that they were small adolescent ones as big as a small horse. They mention that ” perhaps” there were over 50 kind of dianisours but just line dog varites a dog is a dog is a dog so they only needed two.. And not two of the 50 kind. So if a dog is a dog is a dog and there are so many breeds… How do you get the different types of breeds…. From just two dogs… ( evolution). And if it was just Noah and his family… That survived… We’re did Chinese people come from ? They must stowed away on the Ark

    • David says:

      If you are right I still have nothing to lose, but if we are right and Jesus is the way You will lose everything. Praying that you discover the truth!

  4. John Gaskill says:

    satan blinds many. he puts enmity in their hearts to keep them from the truth. he provides the lies and the false rational with which they are presented as argument.

    Silly, considering how powerless he really is when confronted with a single command, backed by our saviour, Jesus Christ.

    James 4:7 gives us that promise, and I’ve seen it work time after time.

    So, we pray for the lost and guide who we can. The Spirit takes care of the rest of the job, yes?
    :)

  5. Brian Malzkuhn says:

    Genesis 6:19 suggests that there were more people saved in the Ark!! Go read and see for yourself because the next 2 verses covered all animals…so that Verse 19 refers to people, humans only.. of every sort = all colors of people were saved and they chipped in tending all animals in the Ark for 13 months, feeding and picking up after their businesses, etc…8 people won’t do the mammoth job! I believe at least 50 couples were saved = 108 people in the Ark!

    • Tony Breeden says:

      Brian Malzkuhn,

      Genesis 6:19 is a summary statement of the next two verses, which flesh out more specifically what is meant in verse 19. There is no reason or warrant to apply this verse to humans, because Genesis 7:7 notes that only Noah, his wive, his sons and his sons wives went aboard the Ark. Genesis 6:10 and other passages make it clear that Noah only had three sons: Shem, Ham and Japheth. As a final nail in the coffin of this erroneous argument, 1 Peter 3:20 affirms that only “eight souls” were saved from the Flood.

      As for the workload, there are many self-feeding mechanisms and even methods for easier waste removal that could have been utilized. For example, consider the following article: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n2/caring-for-the-animals

      The bottom line is that we shouldn’t let our preconceived ideas dictate Scripture; rather we should accept what Scripture says and mold our thinking accordingly.

      Regards and God bless,
      Tony

      • Satan says:

        The fact that anyone or anything can be so blinded by “faith” to believe the fairy tales contained in the bible is exactly the problem with our world as a whole. It is the main issue holding us back from being the of loving prosperous species that we could be. Those stories are designed to explain the complex science and unexplainable acts of our beginnings to children yet we have adults preaching them as fact. It is very sad and I wait till the day we will all be freed or “saved” from the devicive evil religion

      • Tony Breeden says:

        This “divisive, evil” religion gave the world hospitals. Most of te modern scientific disciplines were founded by bible-affirming scientists. If you believe that religion is holding us back from being good, how do you explain the Hitler and Mother Teresa? You see, your assertion [a regurgitation of John Lennon's "Imagine no religion"] doesn’t work in the face of reality. But out of curiosity, what is your standard for right and wrong?

  6. Russ says:

    By virtue of consanguinity, all offspring produced by Noah’s sons are in fact related and following the account that there were no other human survivors after the great flood, inbreeding seem to be inevitable. Believer or otherwise, this seems to be very obvious. In all fairness, the previous charge wasn’t ludicrous at all.

    • Tony Breeden says:

      Creationists believe that Adam and Eve were genetically perfect; when sin entered into the world, creation was cursed and mutations began, but mutations take a while to accumulate. Admittedly there was a genetic bottleneck at the Flood which the Bible indirectly acknowledges in the dramatically reduced lifespans of persons pre and post Flood. As the Law did not forbid intermarrriage amongst close relatives until the time of Moses, we suggest that mutations had not reached the harmful levels which would make inbreeding a problem [morally or genetically] until about that time.

      • I thought that god did away with the second earth age because of the fallen angels coming down and having sex with the humans and creating giants and such

      • Tony Breeden says:

        Harold,

        You seriously need to throw your “Observations of Moses” in the garbage and find a church where they actually teach the Bible.

      • Jenn-O says:

        I thought sin entered the world when Adam ate the forbidden apple, which was prior to them conceiving their first child? Wouldn’t creation have been cursed from the beginning?

      • Tony Breeden says:

        Jenn-O,

        Creation was originally perfect or “very good” as God put it. When sin entered the world, creation was indeed cursed but it would have taken quite some time for a lot of genetic mutations to enter the originally perfect human genome.

        Hope that answers your question. ;]

        -Tony

  7. watchingtime says:

    Its not a easy concept knowing you walk through a door ” of the ark” to save your life. When this world is laughing even when its raining, until some one gets hurt then reality sets in. There’s another ark in sorts, but this time its Him that’s the door, The son of God, Is our savior. Did you know on top of the great divide in Colorado there are seashells ! Hmmm made me as a child think these story’s are real!

  8. brian bosier says:

    i use to think there were more people on the ark myself but i don’t think that anymore because 1peter made it very clear to me Thank you father for the word

  9. it says noah and his famly and two of every flesh,that would include all races.

  10. harold says:

    Just trying to understand Genisis. Tony this will be a series of questions and the first is what was the relationship between Cain and Able? Please answer and i promise it will get more interesting.

  11. harold walker says:

    What claim did i make? You must be suffering from rectal cranium inversion.

  12. Christina says:

    Were there other people than Noah’s family in the ark ???

  13. harold walker says:

    The bible also says two of every flesh. That’s human flesh. He wasn’t talking about animals. He was talking about all the races that was created on the sixth day and the seventh day.

  14. harold walker says:

    You poor ignorant man.

  15. j par says:

    THE BIBLE SAYS THAT 8 SOULS WERE SAVED.NOT THAT ONLY 8 PEOPLE LIVED.8 SOULS WERE SAVED,THAT MEANS JUST WHAT IT SAYS. THEY WERE SAVED BY THE GRACE OF GOD.THERE SOULS WAS SAVED, NOAH AND HIS FAMILY FOUND GRACE IN GODS EYES.JUST LIKE WE FIND GRACE THROUGH OR LORD JESUS CHRIST TO DAY. NOT BY OR WORKS AND KEEPING GODS COMMANMENTS AS NOAH DID. BUT THROUGH GRACE.AND IF WE LOVE GOD ALSO WE WILL KEEP HIS COMAMMENTS. BECAUSE OF WHAT ARE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THE SACRFICE HE MADE FOR US. TO BELEVE UPON HIM AND YE SHALL BE SAVED.I SEE SATIN’S WORK ALL OVER THIS PAGE.YOU ARE FIGHTING OVER THINGS THAT DOES NO MATTER.PEOPLE GETTING ANGERY AGAINST EACH OTHER TALKING ABOUT GODS WORD.PEOPLE TUNING AGAINST EACH OTHER.WOULD GOD BE HAPPY WITH YOU? YOU ARE SUPOSED TO BE CHRISTIANS TO LOVE ONE ANOHER. BUT I DON’T SEE MUCH LOVE HERE.THINK ABOUT THAT .

    • Tony Breeden says:

      j par,

      First of all, why are you “shouting” [all CAPS]? Calm down.

      Secondly, I would respectfully submit that just because I disagree with you does not mean that I am not showing Christian love. Our Lord disagreed with many, especially Pharisees, but He always showed love.

      Thirdly, I would remind you that ALL Scripture is profitable. Speaking of which, here’s what the Scripture actually says.

      The Bible says in 1 Peter 3:20 that “when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water.” This fact is repeated in 2 Peter 2:5, which says, that God “did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly.” Now if you compare this to the Genesis passage you find that according to Genesis 7:7 Noah, his sons [Shem, Ham & Japheth] and their wives entered the Ark. That’s eight people total. Genesis 7:21-23 is emphatic that no one else survived:

      “And all flesh died that moved on the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man: All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. And every living substance was destroyed which was on the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

      What Biblical evidence would you provide that anyone else survived?

      Regards,
      Tony

  16. jp says:

    were did my comments go.scared of what i said was the truth.

  17. j par says:

    Tony when i wrote that every thing that i put in this colum was gone !

  18. j par says:

    TONY I AM INSULTING NO ONE, AND AS ACTING CHILDISH, THE ONLY ONE HERE ACTING CHILDISH, IS YOU ALSO THE ONLY ONE CUTTING PEOPLE DOWN IS YOU. YOU ONLY WONT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE AS YOU DO AND OTHER PEOPLES THOUGHTS ARE OKAY AS LONG AS THEY LINE UP WITH YOURS. THIS IS AMERICA FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS MY RIGHT. AS FAR AS TELLING OTHERS THEY ARE WRONG ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS. MAYBE YOUR THE WRONG ONE HERE. AS FOR TELLING ME WHAT TO DO OR YOU ARE GOING TO BAN ME. GO AHEAD TONY YOU SELF RIGHTEOUS PIG ! NOW TONY THATS A INSULT !!!

  19. Sam L says:

    Please stop. First of all the flood did not destroy the entire world only the area where sin was out of control…. Surly you must know that.. where do you think the olive branch came from.

    • Tony Breeden says:

      Sam,

      You do not get that idea from the Scriptures which state that the whole earth was covered with water, so where did you get it?

      • truthful and cute :) says:

        Sam L the whole world was covered by the flood God helped the plants grow if you don’t believe me see Genesis 9:11. God says i will never flood the EARTH again!!!!

        -Just being truthful

  20. Brotha Kyle says:

    I was at the Natural History Museum in New York City last week. I saw with my own eyes the skeleton of Lucy – an approximated 3.2 million year old human skeleton. As well as 200 million year old dinosaur fossils. I mean no disrespect here to anyone but the facts are the facts and you can not argue with them. I don’t really believe in god, I especially do not believe in religion. I believe that the universe was created by something, not necessarily someone, and we are just beginning to see the origins of the universe, and yet we may never truly understand how this all began. I know one fact, when you die, you die. Lights out. The same as before you were born. And yes that is a bit scary but it allows for us all to realize that fact and live the best lives possible here on Earth right now. Whatever your opinion and retort to this submission may be, you are entitled to that opinion. However, your thoughts on the subject are in no way superior to mine. You believe in what you want to believe and that gives you comfort. I believe in what I want to believe, and it brings me comfort as well. I am an agnostic/atheist. I live with my girlfriend, we’re in college. We have a dog. We are happy as can be. I see the good in the world and the good in people and I believe in treating people with dignity and respect. I believe the only true evil in this world comes from the clashing of people and their dogmas and their egos. Hope you enjoyed my rant.

  21. Bridgette says:

    Thank you Tony, learned a lot, but was trying to figure out the names of Noah’s wife, and his sons’ wives. And yes, you did encourage me to pull out my Bible and look it up for myself, but I still don’t seem to be able to find their names.

    • Tony Breeden says:

      Their names aren’t listed. The down-side of a patriarchal society is that women are rarely named in their histories. :(
      The Book of Jubilees [Lesser Genesis] is a book of pseudoepigrapha [a non-canonical book written in a biblical style and ascribed to an author who did not write it] written sometime around 160-150 BC gives the names of the wives as follows:
      Wife of Noah – Emzara, daughter of Rake’el, son of Methuselah
      Wife of Shem – Sedeqetelebab
      Wife of Ham – Ne’elatama’uk or Na’eltama’uk
      Wife of Japheth – ‘Adataneses
      The Church Fathers were aware of Jubilees and some commented on the material, but it is not considered authoritative or canonical except by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.

  22. therightscoop says:

    Holy cow man. The Bible does NOT say that Noah warned the people of a coming flood. There was no invitation for anyone to come aboard the Ark except Noah, his wife, his sons and their wives. And of course all the animals that he brought to the ark. But that’s it.

    Man had become so evil that there wasn’t anyone righteous except Noah and his family. It grieved His heart and because of this it was God’s intent that they all die – every living thing he created – except Noah and his family and the animals.

    The story you tell is what I learned in Sunday School when I was a child. But that story isn’t true. Just because Peter says Noah was a preacher of righteousness doesn’t mean he warned people about the coming flood. Heck Noah was already 500 years old when God told him to build the ark.

    Reread the story beginning with Gen. 6. You’ll find what I’ve told you to be true and you’ll find no passage that suggests Noah warned people about a coming flood.

    • Tony Breeden says:

      What would you say that a “preacher of righteousness” means then?

      Did you ever consider that the Bible also says that the last days will be as the days of Noah. We still have preachers giving invitations to folks even if many of them will ultimately reject the message. God doesn’t change. I think that Peter’s proclamation that Noah was a preacher of righteousness means that everyone knew why he was building the Ark and that there was an opportunity to turn from their wickedness, even if they all ultimately rejected it or chose to ignore it.

  23. Alone In The Wilderness says:

    So … humans decided which “Scriptures” are truly holy?

  24. Chris Lanza says:

    So in 4000 years, 8 people spread to every continent (excluding Antarctica) and developed entirely different languages, cultures, alphabets, religions, skin colors, and traits. In 4000 years they went from wherever the Ark landed (I’m sorry, I’m not entirely sure where the scripture says that the Ark ends up), and expanded to the the ends of every nation and their offspring somehow were entirely unable to pass down the story of their ancestors and the “true” religion through either writing or word of mouth. So many of these offspring, entirely unable to keep the story straight, resulting in all of these different religions, who’s to say that the story of Christianity that was passed down is at all accurate?

    • Tony Breeden says:

      Chris,

      You’re forgetting the confusion of the languages at Babel, which does explain how the Ark/Flood accounts could have become more inaccurate the further people traveled from the source. God preserved true history through his chosen people, the Jews. If you choose not to believe it in favor of highly polemical accounts with lots of impossibilities rather than the one account which could be at all possible, that’s your business.

  25. Sherri says:

    Life is what it is luck of the draw just like everything else! Sometimes you are lucky sometimes you aren’t! But there is no God nor Satan that causes any of it! Some people are born rich and never work a day in their life then some are born into poverty and have to struggle for everything they get

  26. Sherri says:

    Sorry if I got off the subject but the Bible was written by man and Noah and his Ark is a myth as well! People choose to believe in Hod to keep some kind of organizational peace in society!

  27. Sherri says:

    I was raised in the church and a strong believer! Now I am 55 years old and have traveled read and come to believe entirely different. The God I believed in was supposed to be a loving, caring, non jealous God! I had questions which no minister could ever answer for me which is if God does not put more on us than we can handle as believers why is there so many suicides of Christians?
    If God is loving kind and not a jealous God why did he cast Satan into hell was that not anger and jealousy? Also what kind of God allows children even infants to go through the hell of abuse and torture and murder. Just yesterday a 4 month old baby girl whose own mother called her pedophile boyfriend over to assist in the sexual torture to her baby girl! This monster raped this baby in the vagina as well as the anus so bad it tore her insides up so bad she died! I as a human cannot bear the very thought of the pain this child suffered! Where was this God of love? God can sit on a throne in Heaven and allow this? Nope no longer a believer! We are born and we die simple as that! God never answered a prayer for me as a child or as an adult Christian I gave him my all and he gave me nothing! I do not believe!
    Also how do you tell a child brother or sister of such a horrendous act on a child that the baby is fine God has him or her now and they say “Where was God when this awful thing happened to my baby brother or sister?” You can’t because there is no loving caring protecting God!

    • Tony Breeden says:

      Actually, the Bible does claim that God is a jealous God. About 7 times. It’s even there in the Ten Commandments [Exodus 20:5]. Also, anger is not a sin. God gets angry several times in the Bible. The Bible says to be angry, but do not sin. Not sure how you missed that, but you may want to re-assess a few things in light of that misconception.

      I testified against a pedophile in my own family who committed vile acts against an infant, so I get where you’re coming from. But you’ve forgotten that there is no love without free will. Human suffering came about precisely because men have abused their free will. It started with Adam’s sin and continues to this day. Although suffering isn’t good, God can use it to accomplish good. For example, He can use it to pull people toward salvation, build their character, and discipline them. Most importantly, the day is coming when suffering will cease and evil will be judged. That is what you forgot to include in your assessment. There’s hope through Christ.

      I’m sorry you lost your way. I truly am and I understand how overwhelming such evil and suffering can feel. But God didn’t cause this suffering and He has done something about it. He sent His Son to ultimately remedy the problem and He sends Christians to offer hope, love, comfort and intervention in the world today… we don’t always fulfill our call, but it’s what we’re supposed to do.

  28. phyllis says:

    Here is something that happened to me last evening. While watching a news broadcast on YouTube of the problems in Israel an Orthodox Jew was angry at a Zionist. I decided to learn what a Zionist was and not what I thought it “might” mean. After going through a few video’s I read the comments, and I answered one that claimed that the video was wrong and there were more people on the Ark, the Nephilim she said was in the Ark along with a pair (male and female) of each ethnic group. I replied to her that she was in error, that no only eight people were on the Ark. Well, now I have been called a kinite, which took me awhile to look up and became really angry. The bad comment that I made to her was that she was Biblically illiterate. You can imagine my surprise finding this site after such an incident. After viewing some of the comments here and those of other Biblical sites it seems there is some prophesy coming true. In Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,… I am also thinking that God has sent strong delusion here already. I got to hand it to you doing this here is a good work. I hope you reach many and can open their eyes and hearts to God. God Bless :-)

    • Tony Breeden says:

      Re: “I am also thinking that God has sent strong delusion here already.”

      You may be onto something here, Phyllis.

      Consider the words of 2 Peter 3:3-7:

      “Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.”

      This verse notes that scoffers will reject the promise of Christ’s return because they believe that “all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation,” an idea very much like the all-natural evolutionary model we’re taught today. It goes on to say that men are willingly ignorant that the heavens and the earth were created by the Word of God and that the world was judged with a great Flood by that same Word. Peter’s prophecy seems to confirm your suspicions that the strong delusion is already in place.

      God bless ;]

  29. Shawn says:

    The only thing I’m confused about is that I can’t wrap my mind around the thought that if you don’t accept Jesus as your savior you go to hell right? Christians are of a minority in the world today. All of the other perfectly peaceful religions are going to hell. I don’t think so. A god that would do that is no god of mine.

    • Tony Breeden says:

      A god – no THE God – graciously [that means He didn't have to] gives His only Son to pay your sin debt but you reject it for your own morality [even though it does nothing to pay your sin debt]. If that God is the Creator then He is your God whether you like His terms or not, sir. But rest assured, the Scripture notes that if you reject Him and His Son, He will reject you… so be careful what you wish for.

      For the sake of argument, what is your standard of right and wrong?

  30. Chuck says:

    Check the bible again. After God list to Noah the animals and fowl, two of each kind, God also adds two of every flesh. Meaning two if every race

    • Tony Breeden says:

      Chuck,

      A text without a context is a pretext for error.

      In Genesis 7, we read:

      “21And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: 22All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. 23And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.”

      Clearly, flesh is limited to air-breathing land animals, fowl, creeping things and man. Nowhere is race mentioned. That is not something you are deriving from a natural reading of the text. That is something you are trying to put into the text.

      And that means you’re wrong, Chuck.

  31. Mary says:

    Can you tell me. How did all the different races of people develop?

  32. Jade says:

    Sir, excuse me, but if you say that “The down-side of a patriarchal society is that women are rarely named in their histories.” and still that text made it to the Holy Scripture, wouldn’t you admit that other blemishes of the kind might be found in the text, if it’s really influenced by the patriarchial society and its implied bigotry? So the text isn’t perfect – because it was scribed by people with their own opinions and their own worldview (e.g. women are not as important to the story as men) – and to follow it to the letter is unwise – because you yourself say it is flawed (and it might be more flawed than we are even capable of noticing today)? And yet you say that “rather we should accept what Scripture says and mold our thinking accordingly.” Thank you in advance for your answer.

    • Tony Breeden says:

      Jade,

      I never stated that this was a flaw. it is simply a fact of history. You’re the one who implied “bigotry” [based on modern mores] rather than looking at it as the cultural norm of the time; you have no way of determining whether the holy men who penned the Holy Scripture did so out of misogyny [bigotry would quite a leap from your inference]. In either case, deciding that the Bible must be flawed because of what it doesn’t say would be an argument from silence, which the weakest sort of argument. The Bible says that the Scriptures never came by the will of man, but that holy men of God spoke as they were moved of the Holy Spirit. To the traditional Christian this means that God in His work of inspiration utilized the distinctive personalities and literary styles of the writers whom He had chosen and prepared and, though not conferring omniscience, guaranteed true and trustworthy utterance on all matters of which the Biblical authors were moved to speak and write. Hope that helps.

  33. phyllis says:

    To: Tony Breeden
    See, they keep popping up. There must be a new “popular preacher” out there. You would not believe the horrible things said over this false doctrine. I am currently forming the opinion that there might be a “new movement” that will be based on race. And it seems that none of them want to be in the bloodline of Noah. May have something to do with the secular movie “Noah”, but this started some weeks prior. One thing is for sure…it is a very odd belief since the reason for the flood was to wipe out all of mankind, animals, and insects because every living thing had become corrupted. It just doesn’t have any logic. (I may be wrong about the insects).
    The reason for the flood was not just because of sexual immorality, it had to do with breeding animals not of their kind and creating monsters, is that not so? It had become so wide spread that there was not any man or creature left that was not corrupt save Noah. This is correct is it not?
    You sure have taken on a job,; doing this…I thank you for your reply to my first question. And God Bless you.
    Phyllis

    • Tony Breeden says:

      Phyllis,
      The Bible only says that God sent the Flood in judgment because Man’s every thought was continually evil. It does not give any specifics on what those sins were, so the rest of that becomes speculation. I’m afraid I cannot give you a more definite answer to this question. The only thing I can tell you is that the Bible says that the Last Days will be as the days of Noah. People will live their lives as usual with no regard for their Creator or His will. -Regards and God bless, Tony

  34. Dawn says:

    Dear God I pray you open the eyes of the people on this page misquoting scripture. Amen.

  35. Brent B says:

    Great blog. Thank you for posting this Tony. – Brent

  36. Karron Torres says:

    Yes that is correct. But does the movie reflect that fact? I haven’t seen it yet so does it reflect 8 people like the bible tells us? Are did Hollywood go in and mess it up for dramaic affects. I hate it when someone makes a movie about story’s from the Bible and they aren’t accurate with the true! The story’s are not only true but they are much more interesting and educational if the producers and screen writers would just stick to the facts! God’s a better writer then any screen writer you have in Hollywood anyway.

  37. Jaime Pereira says:

    You should pray to have your own eyes opened, because this is a ludicrous childish story, the likes of Jack and the beanstalk, and the Wizard of Oz!

    • Tony Breeden says:

      Once upon a time, everything come from nothing or maybe an unobservable, unprovable comic book multiverse. Millions of years later, life came from non-life [I know we've never seen it, but we have to believe that or that aliens we've never seen seeded us and then we'd have to explain where THEY came from so no more questions] and THEN millions of years later a frog eventually became a prince! [I know that all we see today is a dog becoming another type of dog, be it a wolf or a teacup poodle, but when you add the magical elements of time and chance and a LOT of imagination, anything is possible!]

      I’m sorry, you were saying?

  38. Jaime Pereira says:

    Yes… “God is a great writer.” However, he forgot to mention all about the oxygen masks which allowed them to breathe at the high altitudes which the ark was floating. You know, given the fact that the water covered everything, including the highest mountains!

  39. Jack says:

    I wonder what races are mutations. I say this because If only Noah’s family was on the Arc…how did we get three races? Was Noah white (Caucasion), black (Negroid), asian (Mongoloid)? These are the three races of humans. Even if his sons’ wives one of these other races, they would not really be fully of one race, but mixed race.

  40. Neil Trigger says:

    I went to a Church of England school. I was a choir boy. I sat and listened to a HUGE number of readings, rituals (weddings, christenings, funerals), scriptures and other services and think I know the bible pretty well. The comment about non believers disagreeing with the teachings of the bible due to pride is daft. It’s nothing to do with my own misunderstanding. I understand it far better than many – dare I say most. I chose to use my open minded nature (God given?) to seek the truth because I do not wish to be a puppet to inherrited belief. Both my parents (whom I love dearly) are fervent believers in Christ and have passed that same belief on to me. I respect my parents but I can honestly say that after lots of soul searching, I simply don’t agree with a lot of the Christian teachings.

    The great flood is a pre-Christ parable which too many people take as true. It never happened. Geological records prove beyond any doubt that the entirety of the earth (or even the known inhabitation of the earth) was never covered wholeheartedly in water. An ark of the size required would break apart due to the stresses upon it and even modern building techniques and materials would require significant planning, industrial manpower and far longer than a lifetime to build if it were to be completed by hand by only eight people.

    I won’t go into detail on other aspects of scripture, but please let’s be realistic.

    None of this post is intended to contest the existence of a supreme being, only the specific creationist references.

    If you accept the genetic mutations issue, surely you must accept Darwinian evolution!? It is not a “theory” in the way that most people understand the term. Science defines the word “theory” differently. It is a proven fact that we are evolving still (percentage of humans who are lactose intolerant has decreased by almost 50% recently due to evolution and gene dominance – fact).

    The existance of god is not precluded by an acceptance of science, but to blindly accept the stories of Noah and his Ark as anything more than a control mechanism to enforce social adherence to accepted behaviours just makes people look silly.

    • Tony Breeden says:

      Neil,

      The Flood account was not taken as a parable by the author of Hebrews, Peter nor Jesus who all referenced it as if it were an actual historical account.

      Folks who believe the historical veracity of Genesis have a different interpretation of the fossil record that is consistent with the Bible rather than an all-natural history of the world. In short, we believe that most [but not all] of fossil bearing strata are a result of the Flood and are thus a record of God’s judgment.

      Many studies have been conducted which prove the ark’s design and construction would have been sufficient. I refer you to the following webpage for more information: http://worldwideflood.org/objections/too_big_for_timber.htm

      You should also be aware that creationists accept observable micro-evolution [changes within created kinds , eg., natural selection, mutation, speciation, etc] but deny unobservable macro-evolution [microbes-to-man evolution] because the latter is based on pure naturalism [which would also deny the existence of God, the immortality of the soul, the Resurrection of Christ, Biblical miracles, and ANY and ALL other supernatural claims of the Bible]. You may think believing the Word of God makes people look silly when men who refuse to even consider the supernatural dispute it, but at least my worldview is consistent.

  41. Mike Ghobadi says:

    How were people saved before Jesus came along? The God that Christians believe in is so cruel as to send billions of non-Christians to hell just because they DO NOT accept Jesus as their savior? Bible stories are nothing more than bed time stories for children who do not have the capabilities of discerning between truth and fiction. I choose not to believe in your cruel God and fully prepared to pay the consequences of my actions!

    • Tony Breeden says:

      The Bible states that before Christ we were saved by observance of the Law. Those without the Law were still held accountable because God had written the Law on their hearts [Romans 2]. We call that a conscience. The Bible states that God winked at our ignorance in times past but now commands all men to repent through Christ [acts 17:30]. He also promises that God is not very far from any of us and that we will find Him if we seek Him with our whole heart. However, Jesus Christ is the only name under heaven and earth whereby men MUST be saved. It is not cruel to punish men for their sins; it is just and righteous. It is grace that allows men to come to Christ for salvation that none of us could ever earn on our own merits. If you COULD pay the consequences of your own actions, it would NOT have taken the DEATH of God’s Son to remedy the situation. It is utter arrogance that allows you to make such a statement without measuring the full cost. The wages [deserved earnings] of sin is death and this is consequence of your actions. This “cruel” God offers you the gift of eternal life while you say, ‘no, thanks, your Son’s death was completely unnecessary. I’m good all on my own.’ Blind guide, how will you escape the damnation of hell?

  42. Orlando says:

    I was dragged to the Noah movie. Like I figured, anything coming from Hollywood these days is rife with current day left-wing extremist nonsense. It’s a bland sci-fi/fantasy approach to the story of Noah. The worst part is they almost turn Noah into a self righteous, abortionist for the environmentalist movement. The movie is not a spectacle and the acting is sub par. I would have preferred Captain America. The silver lining in all this is that perhaps some people will open their Bible up again to fact check the story and carry on into the rest of the good book. Azon and the rest of the troubled souls in this comment list need to remember that Jesus, whether you believe in his divinity or not, just wanted us to first respect and love each other and if you wanted more to truly believe in his inspiration and divine message—the truth.

  43. Sid says:

    Just watched the Movie…..!!!…Where in the bible does it talk about giant rock creatures that look like they came straight out of Lord of the Rings.
    Take away all pre-existing knowledge of the bible fairy tales .And you have a good action story.
    Which was confirmed by my friends daughter who knows nothing about the bible tales and she enjoyed it as much as she enjoyed “The Hobbit”…..

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